Pressure continues to grow for Nan Rich to pull a George LeMeiux and drop out of the Democratic Primary for Governor after qualifying. The increased calls for Senator Rich to drop out have come below the radar in the form of a whisper campaign but include some establishment figures in the Democratic Party. Should Rich withdraw, the presumptive nominee Governor Charlie Crist could focus on the General Election.
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Yes She needs to get out of a race she cannot win. The main objective is to get rid of the horrible Rick Scott. Her anti gun stance alone will not allow her to win in a state with a very heavy NRA membership. She should put aside the ego and realize that if Rick Scott wins, and needs no more votes, he will unleash more horrors on the state and the people. She ought to know better that her chances are way too slim. get out of the way already and get your supporters to help the D party win one for a change.
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Senator Rich has a better shot at beating Scott than Charlie does. Charlie has bipartisan baggage. It gives Republicans a reason to vote for Scott and Democrats a reason to stay home. Figure it out for yourself.
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So, I should put aside all my beliefs and values and vote for Crist just to get a so-called democrat in the Governor’s house. This is what republicans do and we criticize them because they would vote for Donald Duck if he was a republican. I won’t sell my soul to the devil for any reason.
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In Florida — a state with a longtime majority of registered Democrats – we already have all the evidence we need that those who are cynical about Democratic Party values are destroying the party’s opportunities for success. Stop presenting as candidates thinly disguised Republicans and then pretending surprise when Democrats DO NOT TURN OUT TO VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS who have been dressed up to look like Dems. We aren’t stupid, and we are motivated to vote for Democrats, not Republicans. The leadership of the FDP is riddled — for a long time — with Republicans, including Mrs. Barry Richards and, before her, Sen. Rod Smith who, even while chair of the Fla. Dems., refused to campaign for the (often elected) candidate for Fla. Senate from Smith’s own county — Alachua. Smith (a former state attorney) was too beholden over too many years to the Republican incumbent in the senate that year, a former sheriff, to RISK his times to the GOP by campaigning for the Dem. candidate for Florida Senate from Smith’s own home county, Alachua. House cleaning is needed in the state leadership of the FDP. Let the grassroots Dems lead, and you will get a real D — Nan Rich — in the Fla. Gov.’s mansion!
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The “main objective is to get rid of Scott.” I actually thought that less than a year ago. Now my main objective is to follow the process of a democratic society. It is not worth sacrificing our free choice as voters to get rid of any Republican….I am disgusted by attempts to make Nan quit before the voters can register their opinion. Her name may not be as well known now as that of her primary opponent…..guarantee….If she is forced out, the whole nation will know Nan Rich.
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Hey Nancy… There was a time back ln the day when I would cast a vote in your favor….
What happened ??? Did You Get into to much muck when you was appointed A PSC Commissioner by The Tanman???? This website will give you a fair shake … And I Will Debunk anything You say// #LIAR #Opportunist …. I Will Vote for NAN…. Luv Me some Nan Rich #genuine
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Nan Rich has been running for Governor for two years an still most voters in Florida have never heard of her. She has almost no chance of winning the primary. If she were to drop out of the race, the Florida Democratic Party and all of the county Democratic Parties can start to campaign for Charlie Crist. This is our best chance to defeat Rick Scott. If she does drop out and endorse Crist, she will ensure that Scott becomes a one term Governor.
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If she has no chance of winning the primary why is the Florida Democratic Party acting like the Communist party and trying to limit the voter’s choice in the primary? She is not dividing the party….you are.
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I saw no evidence this weekend, at the Leadership Blue Gala and the meetings on Saturday and Sunday, that the FDP is trying to force Nan Rich out of the primary. She was more visible than Charlie Crist, and was allowed to speak at all of the meetings. Neither candidate was allowed to speak at the dinner. I do not think Nan Rich is dividing the party. However, we as a party cannot campaign for any candidate for governor until after the primary, or sooner if Nan Rich voluntarily drops out.
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Richard, neither of us in our comments are campaigning in the name of the party, but as individuals.
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Who was responsible for FORTUNE COOKIE GATE?
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Senator Rich has a better chance at beating Scott than does Charlie. Progressives resent being told who to vote for. Senator Rich can rally the Dems to get out and vote for a proven progressive.
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i love her positions on almost all issues. but, two people who know her personally told me she’s so unpleasant that they won’t vote for her, if people who know her won’t vote for her why should the rest of us?
saying she has a better chance than crist does not make it true. it isn’t true, and never will be.
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If they force Nan out of the primary….they lose my vote in November. I don’t like their using force to remove a legitimate candidate and to force the party choice down my throat. What are they afraid of? They all say she will lose the primary….why not let Democratic voters decide. I expect dirty politics from Scott….if the party forces Nan out they have sunk to the level of Scott….and it is a toss of the coin for my vote.
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Nan Rich should not be forced out of the primary, and no one can force her out. She should drop out voluntarily, so that we (the FDP and the DECs) can start to campaign for Charlie Crist and get rid of Scott!
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Rick Scott is going to beat on Charlie like he was a rented mule and the Republicans will cheer Rick on. Scott does not have that advantage if Senator Rich is his opponent.
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Nobody is forcing anybody to do anything, but if you were truly interested in getting Rick Scott out, you’d through support behind the candidate that has a chance of doing that. NR is simply not viable. She has 100k for crying out loud! The comment about losing your vote is exactly what keeps Republicans in office.
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Your FACTS are in error. You could correct them by doing a simple Google search of news PUBLISHED about Sen. Rich’s campaign.
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S. perhaps you should take your own advice. http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2014-05-15/news/sfl-rich-behind-crist-money-20140515_1_nan-rich-april-30-contributions
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Not listening to comments from people who are disgusted by the FDP and blaming them for not towing a party line is why you don’t win. You don’t win because you deserve to lose. But keep towing that line. Getting heavier every year to tow it without all the folks who would help if they thought the party was going anywhere that would benefit them.
I’m NPA for life, but I work on campaigns. I see the ground, I talk to the voters. The party has nothing to offer them.
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“Rich is behind on money! She only has a hundred grand!”
Susan, if you don’t see why democracy is failing, summed up in those two assertions, stop calling yourself a dem, and just admit that you’re a plutocrat. Don’t worry, most of the rest of the party has been there for years.
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I’m interested in my party principles and platform. Once those go, as they have with the majority who know that Crist is an opportunist who sees his only way back into politics is with a “D” behind his name and support that, the Democratic Party ceases to exist. Nan Rich has stood with all of us through out her entire political career. to see you abandon her just to get a win by any means necessary, which includes embracing a man who would sell you out just as soon as he would look at you, means you deserve to lose in november. Maybe hitting rock bottom is what the Democratic party needs. We may not have enough votes to carry Nan across the primary finsh line, but rest assured, Charlie Crist will not win this election. I will sit out in November, and continue to encourage others to do the same. This is war within our own party, and I’m not giving up.
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That is a terrible attitude. If your candidate in the primary does not win, you are willing to hand the Governors race over to Rick Scott. And worse yet, encourage others NOT to vote. I am for Charlie Crist, but if Nan Rich wins the primary, I will be campaigning to get her elected Governor.
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Right now her campaign is nothing but a vanity exercise. She is not winning. Those that support her know that. The Republicans know that and have chosen to use her as a stalking horse.
She is doing nothing but hurting the party now.
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How is she hurting the party? Are we not allowed to have primaries or should we just anoint whoever the big money backers will support because it suits their interests?
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HACK
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Sure she should stay in
If you like Rick Scott
She is handing him the election
All these dumb activists are helping her do this
Dupes some and others are GOP plants
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You’re going to need “dumb activists” to win in November. It might be wise to stop insulting us for wanting to participate in a Democratic primary.
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In Florida — a state with a longtime majority of registered Democrats – we already have all the evidence we need that those who are cynical about Democratic Party values are destroying the party’s opportunities for success. Stop presenting as candidates thinly disguised Republicans and then pretending surprise when Democrats DO NOT TURN OUT TO VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS who have been all dressed up to look like Dems. We aren’t stupid, and we are motivated to vote for Democrats, not Republicans. The leadership of the FDP is riddled — for a long time — with Republicans, including Mrs. Barry Richards and, before her, Sen. Rod Smith, who, even while he was chair of the Fla. Dems., refused to campaign for the (often elected) Democratic candidate for Fla. Senate from Smith’s own county — Alachua. Smith (a former state attorney) was, as always, far too beholden over too many years to the Republican’s in North Florida — including beholden to the Republican incumbent in the Florida Senate that year, a former sheriff — to RISK his ties to the GOP by campaigning for the Democratic candidate for Florida Senate from Smith’s own home county, Alachua. Serious house cleaning is needed in the state leadership of the FDP. Let the grassroots Dems lead, and you will get a real D — Nan Rich — in the Fla. Gov.’s mansion!
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All of us “dumb activists” hear you — loud and clear! Why don’t we just passively allow the corrupt state leadership of the Florida Democratic Party decide? Right! That’s working real well, so far, for Florida! If it were funny, we would all be laughing! But we “dumb activists” give a damn, and that’s inconvenient for the corrupt state leadership of Florida’s Democratic Party!
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What are you afraid of if you are sure she will lose the primary anyway? Her primary loss would normally send all her supporters to Crist for November. They would have voted their principles and would now support the Crist alternative.
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We can thank Charlie Crist for Marco Rubio. He used the same tactics in the 2010 campaign as an “independent” when he failed to secure the republican nomination for US Senate. He said vote for me, Kendrick Meek can’t win. It split the Democratic vote and we got Marco Rubio. Now we hear from Charlie that Nan Rich can’t beat Rick Scott, vote for me. I guess he campaigns this way because he can’t run on his record, his politics, things he has actually done. Nan Rich has a great record, a history as a winner, working on things that matter to Florida. Dear Democrats, don’t fall for it again. He is not our friend. Check out what he does, not what he says. Nan will beat Rick Scott if we get the Democratic vote out. Too many Democrats dislike Charlie Crist and will not come out to vote in November if he is our candidate. They remember what Charlie Crist has done.
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Kendrick Meek had no chance of winning against Rubio, with or without Crist in the race.
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So said Charlie.
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May I copy this and post it? I think this NEEDS to be spread.
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Yes, please do. It is important.
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Support the candidate who has all along been working steadfastly in the trenches of the party that has been in the minority in the state leadership of Florida while the Republicans have been destroying our state!
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Exactly, Kathleen. If Nan wins the primary, Dems will unite to get the vote out for a real Dem. If Crist wins the primary, Many Dems and other progressives will stay home, or leave the Governor spot blank, and the Repubs will turn out in droves to vote against turncoat Charlie. Florida has a history of electing underdog Dems. Don’t count Nan out. I believe she is the ONLY one who can beat Rick Scott.
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Nan and her supporters, you can “vote down” my comments all you like. The truth may hurt. My motivation is to get rid of Rick Scott and start the ball rolling to get balance back int he legislature. Nan you cannot win and you need to do the right thing. Good God when will some of you learn that we must have a win to change this state? Nan cannot win. Period !
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I wouldn’t call returning to Charlie Crist a “win”. It seems that people are so focused on getting rid of Scott, that they will gladly elect “Scott Lite”.
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The view you express has prevailed for years in the state leadership of the Florida Democratic Party. That awfully clever (and cynical) view is the reason Florida has suffered as it has under Republican leadership DESPITE a majority of Democrats registered to vote. Just like Pres. Truman, Florida grassroots Dems, too, don’t want no FAKE Democrats in this campaign! Plenty of time word evidence shows DEMOCRATS do not show up to vote for the candidates favored by the state leadership of the FDP. Reality check! THEY ARE OUT OF TOUCH! Sen. Rich is IN-TOUCH with Florida’s grassroots Dems, and that’s why she was elected as a Democrat and consistently reelected to consecutive terms in the Florida legislature over a dozen years. Your cynicism is boring and doomed!
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Hey, Nancy: That’s how democracy works. The people don’t like your candidate, your dismissal of the one progressive in the race, or your claim to the truth. Get ready for the same to happen in August. The people will decide which candidate has merit. Not the money, not the party, but the votes. You don’t have the votes here, and you can’t organize effectively enough to get other folks to vote here, that’s why you lose, and I quote the Newsroom here, so “Goddamn always.”
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Senator Nan Rich is the only real Democrat in the race. It is incredible that the party leadership is doing to her just what they did to Janet Reno in 2002. Nan is a great Dem with Dem positions on every issue for her entire career. Education, women’s rights, health issues, LGBT rights – Nan has always been there. Crist will support whatever his handlers tell him to.
He turned off the entire Republican party with his vetoes while Governor. I cannot understand why any Dem would support him, unless they got a brown bag with $10,000 in it for supporting Crist! Dem’s should wake up and support Nan Rich a true Dem for Gov!
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She’s a great Dem with no money and no name recognition. Let’s see how that works.
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If she wins the nomination, the money that went to Crist will go to Nan…unless you think Democrats will bail just because they prefer a former Republican Governor who they once loathed to return to office instead of building up Nan Rich.
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The leadership of the Fla. Dems has done their all to squelch Sen. Rich’ grassroots campaign, including commenting ON THE RECORD to the press, after she had already begun campaigning, how they really wished they had a viable candidate for governor, loudly ignoring Sen. Rich’s electoral victories and her strong record of success in the Florida legislature.
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As I mentioned before….even the faint odor that she is forced to drop out and the whole nation will know her name. The national press loves to find S— in Florida. Why is everyone afraid to let her run. If she loses, her followers will support the Democratic primary winner. Are there some polls not made public that show her support stronger than we are led to believe making the party afraid.
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OMG! Talk about Janet Reno… Fla D Party is out of touch. It doesn’t take money to win an election, it takes votes. Grass root support is for Nan. I am fed up with Fla Dem Party and will NEVER support their actions. Have you seen their campaign ad…. ? It’s a fact that NEGATIVE ads inspire the target of the neg ad. STOP BLOWING IT!
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I wish all candidates had to run as independents, so that people could vote based on the candidates’ policies and not political strategy to make sure your team wins.
Vote for who represents you best.
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Our new blog which refutes everything on the site will definitively prove that her campaign is being backed by Republicans..
We will do this later today.
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Oh, boy! Real fun! Hilarious! I’m sure Sen. Rich will be interested in learning that her campaign is backed by Republicans! Keep the laughs coming!
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I can hardly wait to hear about how it is I am a Republican.
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Just supposing….I love conspiracy theories: Why would someone like the Kochs support an underdog? The Republican money would be better spent in grooming a Manchurian Candidate who was a Republican/ Democrat with a better chance of winning Floridan Democratic votes. Either way they win then. I really don’t think any amount of money would buy Nan Rich to undermine the party she has supported her whole life…and I am tired of hearing unproven accusations….though I am totally enjoying this discussion today.
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I agree, Nan Rich is not taking any money from Republicans.
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If someone is registers as a Democrat when they first turned 18 years old or if they register to vote or change their party affiliation to Democrat today, they still are a Democrat. We do not have a time test as to how long someone has been a Democrat. Has Nan Rich been a Democrat longer than Charlie Crist? Yes. A new Democrat is a real Democrat. Charlie Crist is a real Democrat and Nan Rich is a real Democrat. I support Crist because he has a very good chance to beat Scott. Unfortunately, Nan Rich does not have any chance to beat Scott (she has not won any polls against Scott).
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Crist beats Scott in polls because of name recognition. If democrats would support her and help get her name out there, then she would be able to beat Rick Scott. Voting for Charlie Crist just makes my stomach turn.
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I support your right to vote for Nan Rich in the primary. I hope you will vote against Scott in the general election, by voting for the person with the D next to their name Rich or Crist.
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…and if Rich is allowed to compete in the primary and loses, I will spend my energy in getting Democrats out to vote for the candidate chosen by the party AND the voters.
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Yes, Richard. In the general election I will vote for the Democratic nominee, but I am going to fight for Nan Rich until the results come in on August 26th.
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I will campaign for whoever wins on August 26.
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Nan Rich has no business staying in this race. Every passing day of attacks on Crist every additional progressive choice mail piece and every racist email from progressive choice helps Rick Scott.
I keep hearing from these whiny people backing her that she is the real Democrat. In this race that’s far Charlie Crist is proving he is the real Democrat. He is the one standing up for party he is the one helping us articulate democratic values. She is working closely with the Republicans and conservative Democrats to reelect Rick Scott.
The choice is simple. Support a real Democrat someone who got Obama elected or support a whiny campaign being used by the Republicans.
The entire legacy of Senator Rich has been flushed down the toilet in this campaign. She will be remembered as a sore loser a Republican tool and someone who ultimately sank the Democratic Party.
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Be careful about writing lies for publication.
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The argument that Crist is the only one who can beat Scott is weak and it sickens me that Democrats are towing that line. Crist is from the same cloth as Scott. Were you happy with him 4-8 years ago, my fellow democrats? You don’t get a progressive Governor by recycling a conservative one. Nan Rich is the BEST option as governor of Florida!
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toeing.
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Broward Bob….OK you have proven you are a better speller….give Valerie the respect to he right to voice her opinion…..
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My bad, silly me. I’ll throw away my Master’s degree for totally messing up that idiom! All of my thoughts are invalid.
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i did, and she did voice it. but if she’s going to tell others what to do (and it’s not just spelling, it’s the wrong word) she needs to be literate.
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The fact that the Democrats could not produce another candidate besides these two speaks volumes about the lack of a bench and the lack of a strong party structure.
I think we can all agree on that.
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Not a fact at all. There are other qualified Dems out there but once the FDP embraces Charlie why should the step up to plate.
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No. I tend to vote democratic but I did vote for Crist the last time around. This election Rich will be getting my vote.
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Florida Squeeze, by continuing to raise this question, you are, in fact, participating intentionally in what you describe as a “whisper campaign.” Nonetheless, even so, the outcome of your anecdotal polls remains the same. Democrats do not want the only candidate with a record as an elected Democrat to drop out of the campaign for Florida governor. (Duh!) IF, however, you have a genuine interest in this question – rather than a desire to bolster the whispering voices that, without success, attempt to drive Sen. Rich out of the campaign, then pay for a scientific poll. Otherwise, you are contributing, as you know already, to the “whisper campaign.”
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Then why are you commenting on the thread?
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Charlie needs to run in a primary so we can see how he polls with real Dems, not newspaper reporters.
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Charlie was Governor of Florida for just over a year when he started shopping Florida’s electoral votes to the Republican nominee John McCain. Less than one year later in May of 2009 Charlie abandons his incumbency to take on Rubio for the Martinez senate seat. Now he peddles his second term to Democrats as though it were an entitlement and they buy it. The Florida stage has never been big enough for Charlie and where he to get his old job back he will be looking at 2016, count on it. The FDP has bought a pig in a poke and Charlie won’t get his old job back. He can’t beat Rick Scott.
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What will he be looking at in 2016? This will be in the middle of a term for Governor that ends in January of 2019.
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He will be looking to be on the ticket with the Democratic nominee, just like 2008.
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Enough of this tearing the party apart. Give Nan supporters a chance to vote and stop the in-party conflict. All of this makes good press, but just makes November more difficult. I think that what most people resent is that the hint or rumor they may be denied the vote. Personally, I resent that hint or rumor as well. Lets not get going on 2016 yet….for goodness sake.
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Correct, we all need to concentrate on 2014. We will can start thinking about 2016 after November 4th, not before. Both Nan and Charlie will be on the primary ballot on August 26th, nothing is going to change that. Everyone should vote for the person that they want. Then we all need to come together and vote for the winner of the primary on November 4th to defeat Scott.
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If Nan Rich is not on the ballot, I will vote for Rick Scott. I’d rather see the state dragged further into the Dark Ages than vote for that smarmy, disingenuous DNO Crist.
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Nan Rich will be on the primary ballot on August 26. Are you saying that if your choice in the primary does not win, you will vote for Scott? I sure hope I am misunderstanding you.
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He’s saying that he won’t vote for Charlie. There are many dems who feel that way. Personally, I’ll be voting third party. I think enough dems hate Scritt, and enough reps hate Crott, that a third party has a good shot this year.
I know, I know, third parties have no chance of winning, in your expert opinion, and my duty is to vote for the D. That’s the nice thing about voting: I get to decide who I vote for. And that’s why you Ds lose: You scream that everyone has to vote for Charlie, because he isn’t Rick Scott. Well, Marco Rubio isn’t Rick Scott either, and I sure as hell ain’t voting for him.
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From the Florida Division of Elections website, the third party candidates that have qualified, and will be on the ballot, are Adrian Wyllie (LPF), Joe Allen (NPA), Glenn Burkett (NPA), and Farid Khavari (NPA). There are are nine write in candidates who have qualified but will not be listed on the ballot. So the question is, which one of these third party candidates has a “good shot this year”?
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That is your decision, and I understand your anger if she is not on the ballot. She is a fighter and will not voluntarily take her name off. If she should lose, I hope you get over your anger and give each of the two remaining candidates your ear before making a choice. My candidate of choice has lost a primary before, and I have bit my tongue, wiped my tears, pulled up my “big girl pants” and looked at the remaining choices. It is not always easy….but is better than the alternative of leaving ones bottom exposed and no choice at all.
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Running very close, good job Nan. There is a reason we have primaries and it is to find the best candidate that our party members want to run under the flag of their party. And debates amongst these candidates should be mandatory
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Nan Rich on August 26.
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I have said it once and I will say it again: I am confused….the ones who support the lifelong Democrat are secretly Republicans while the ones backing the former Republican are Democrats? Back-assward and shows the lack of a brain and intelligence for those making this argument.
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Dave, It’s as if Frank Luntz and Karl Rove wrote Crist’s campaign plan! We’re living in upside-down world.
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Stop trying to take the power of our vote away. From the start of this race, it’s been the same old tune – Nan Rich doesn’t have Name Recognition – Why? Ask the press that question since they’ve been part of the orchestrated effort to support Charlie Crist. Nan Rich should stay and work to win the primary. Charlie Crist needs to agree to a series of debates with Nan Rich – that would provide the needed name recognition that the media says is missing. Media, fess up and help Nan Rich with name recognition. Ask about debates, not dropping out of the race.
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Nan and Charlie should have a debate!! The Democratic Party probably want Crist to win the primary for a better chance to win the general ejection but Nan would win the debate! Let’s get both candidates out there for the debate so we can see BOTH candidates and decide fairly.
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As a new Florida resident, I’ve read about both Nan and Charlie. I’m skeptical of Charlie on the issues that I’m concerned about. Nan has my vote. She should not drop out!
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1984 Democratic Primary
Dade County School Board (Open Seat)
Kathleen Magrath 66,695
Nan Rich 44,697
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WTF
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she’ll lose by a LOT more than that this time. take it to the bank.
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The entire purpose of a primary is to select the best nominee for the party to proceed to the general election in November. Asking Nan Rich to drop out totally defeats the purpose of the primary and, in my view, is undemocratic. Let the voters decide who would be best to go up against Rick Scott and let that be done on the merits. Toward that end, we voters need a debate to hear these two candidates articulate their ideas to solve Florida’s problems, so we can vote accordingly. Neither should have anything to hide and the one that refuses to debate should NOT get any votes!
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All of you wanting Nan Rich to drop out before the Primary should stick it where “the sun don’t shine”. You are JUST as bad as the TEA PARTY. You want to take the RIGHTS of other Democrats AWAY. You’re just as bad and UNDEMOCRATIC as the Voter Suppression Rick Scott is trying to do in Florida! WTH has HAPPENED to this state. I’ve been here for 62 years and I’m starting to HATE Florida.
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Mike you are so right!
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Of course Nan shouldn’t drop out, democracy functions better with more people in the mix and Nan provides us with a much newer view of things then Christ!
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We can have a primary; it wouldn’t do any good for Nan though… Sorry to say this but she has no chance. She doesn’t have the credentials, nor does she have the voter base that Charlie does. Charlie will win easily, and then he will take it to the GOP in the state wide elections and take down Scott.
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[…] Her supporters are having none of it. In a recent non-scientific poll by the blog The Florida Squeeze, 50.8 percent of voters said Rich should stay in the race. That’s down from about 62 percent earlier in the poll. But remember, it’s an unscientific poll and people often vote more than once. You can catch the poll here. […]
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